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  1.    02 May 2022 10:37 with arca%wolf.furnet.org@biboumi.nuegia.net                                                                                                                              
  2.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:37:37] 
  3.    Hello!                                                                                                                                                                           
  4.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:37:42] 
  5.    hi arca                                                                                                                                                                          
  6.    do you have some time now to talk?                                                                                                                                                          
  7.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:38:39] 
  8.    sure                                                                                                                                                                             
  9.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:39:10] 
  10.    there's been bullying and brigading going on from the admins in #foxie of me and and others I wanted to talk to you about that and hopefully you can intervene
  11.    by narkiel and blue_j                                                                                                                                                                       
  12.    I've also been being stalked and bullied online in various places and i think they are part of that                                                                                         
  13.    been trying to slander and ostracize me from everywhere                                                                                                                                     
  14.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:41:36] 
  15.    Can you give some examples?                                                                                                                                                      
  16.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:41:39] 
  17.    yeah                                                                                                                                                                             
  18.    i'm pulling up a log right now                                                                                                                                                              
  19.    but they banished me from #foxie out of nowhere                                                                                                                                             
  20.    and before that blue_j was harassing me in the dark                                                                                                                                         
  21.    all because i think they were annoying because they shared some image host link and i couldn't read it so i asked them to use another site                                                  
  22.    been taking potshots at me                                                                                                                                                                  
  23.    as well as gaslightning and kicking shentino                                                                                                                                                
  24.    (shentino didn't ask me to talk to you about this btw)                                                                                                                                      
  25.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:44:58] 
  26.    in the dark?                                                                                                                                                                     
  27.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:46:44] 
  28.    here https://c-v.sh/yeastycitrates.txt                                                                                                                               
  29.    > in the dark?                                                                                                                                                                              
  30.    keyboard slipped                                                                                                                                                                            
  31.    *annoyed                                                                                                                                                                                    
  32.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:50:19] 
  33.    Seems pretty straightforward                                                                                                                                                     
  34.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:50:27] 
  35.    what does? howso?                                                                                                                                                               
  36.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:50:51] 
  37.    Everything I see there, I don't see the issue                                                                                                                             
  38.    You were banned a while back for causing issues and disrupting the peace, following second chances behavior was repeated, there's no good reason to bring you back into #foxie now          
  39.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:51:53] 
  40.    what are you talking about?                                                                                                                                                
  41.    can you give an example?                                                                                                                                                                    
  42.    what second chance?                                                                                                                                                                         
  43.    and your ok with admins lying about me trying to get people brigaded off the network?                                                                                                       
  44.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:55:12] 
  45.    where are they saying that?                                                                                                                                                      
  46.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:56:00] 
  47.    saying what                                                                                                                                                                      
  48.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:56:29] 
  49.    that you are trying to get people "brigaded off the network"                                                                                                       
  50.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:58:38] 
  51.    03:32:08] <@wwolfy> i remember agris now I think  and far as I know he ? changed his nick to  join again without being unbanned  forteh original offence  so thats not well thought of and
  52.    as I said admin have the right not to be overidden by othrr amin and certainly not by ops untill its discussed
  53.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [10:59:34] 
  54.    That has nothing to do with you getting people off the network                                                                                                    
  55.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [10:59:55] 
  56.    and then the whole next paragraph their trying to band together to get a consistent story to go complain to network ops to 
  57.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:01:02] 
  58.    so?                                                                                                                                                                              
  59.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:02:06] 
  60.    so that's dishonest behavior that is also bullying and brigading                                                                                        
  61.    what's your point?                                                                                                                                                                          
  62.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:02:34] 
  63.    there's no dishonesty that I can see, certainly not bullying, and I don't know what you mean by "brigading"                                
  64.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:04:45] 
  65.    Brigading is an online harassment tactic where a group of people rally against an individual (or occasionally against a small group of people) in a coordinated, sustained and organized
  66.    way.                                                                                        
  67.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:05:26] 
  68.    So like you repeatedly causing issues in #foxie and ban-evading, that would be brigading?                                                           
  69.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:05:33] 
  70.    no                                                                                                                                                                               
  71.    i never ban evaded                                                                                                                                                                          
  72.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:05:48] 
  73.    alright                                                                                                                                                                          
  74.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:05:58] 
  75.    and i'm coming to you becaue narkiel and blue_j are causing issues                                                                                     
  76.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:06:31] 
  77.    I'm not the boss of them. If they're PMing you and you don't like it, just block them.                                                                
  78.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:06:57] 
  79.    their saying i did and brigading together to get me not just banned from #foxie but banned from the entire network             
  80.    your the owner of the channel #foxie                                                                                                                                                        
  81.    and i'm banned from #foxie                                                                                                                                                                  
  82.    your privileges are higher than them                                                                                                                                                        
  83.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:08:51] 
  84.    Yes, and that is not going to change                                                                                                                                           
  85.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:09:31] 
  86.    could you please unban me from #foxie and do something about narkiel and blue_J abusing their admin privilges                     
  87.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:10:05] 
  88.    There is no admin abuse going on, you were correctly banned and haven't really shown a reason why you should be unbanned             
  89.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:10:29] 
  90.    I don't see that                                                                                                                                                                
  91.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:10:45] 
  92.    And that's why you're not getting unbanned :P                                                                                                                             
  93.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:10:57] 
  94.    can you give me an example?                                                                                                                                                
  95.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:11:04] 
  96.    It's not "brigading" to ban you, it's just them doing their job.                                                                                                 
  97.    Nah, I don't keep logs                                                                                                                                                                      
  98.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:11:42] 
  99.    spreading lies about me and working together to try and get me banned from the entire network is brigading                         
  100.    wait                                                                                                                                                                                        
  101.    so                                                                                                                                                                                          
  102.    if you don't keep logs why are you saying i was correctly banned                                                                                                                            
  103.    that doesn't make any sense                                                                                                                                                                 
  104.    what are you talking about?                                                                                                                                                                 
  105.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:14:14] 
  106.    Because I remember you being banned and being a general pest and troll.                                                                                      
  107.    No one is "spreading lies" about you. You were a troll and you caught a ban, end of story.                                                                                                  
  108.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:16:29] 
  109.    tht's untrue                                                                                                                                                                     
  110.    why are you saying this about me?                                                                                                                                                           
  111.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:19:07] 
  112.    Because you're asking me to unban you, I'm explaining to you why that is not going to happen at this time.                                  
  113.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:20:10] 
  114.    I have not gotten an explanation at all really? I asked if you could give me an example and you didn't instead you just insulted me and made accuzations
  115.    what do you mean at this time?                                                                                                                                                              
  116.    when?                                                                                                                                                                                       
  117.    really, it just to me looks like your part of whatever these people have against me and are attacking me for                                                                                
  118.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:23:09] 
  119.    I haven't insulted you. I'm being pretty patient and generous with you despite you not really giving me a good reason to.           
  120.    No one is "attacking" you. You have been banned for being a jerk. You are the aggressor in this situation.                                                                                  
  121.    What we "have against you" is you being a jerk to us. No one has to put up with that.                                                                                                       
  122.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:25:06] 
  123.    you have not really shown anything to support that                                                                                                             
  124.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:27:24] 
  125.    Please do not message me or other #foxie members about this issue any more. We don't have to put up with your harassment either. I was willing to be reasonable and listen but there's no
  126.    reasonable attitude here.                                                                           
  127.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:27:46] 
  128.    stop harassing me                                                                                                                                                               
  129.    stop slandering and defaming me                                                                                                                                                             
  130.    stop you and your goons following me around the internet trying to defame and get me ostracized from everywhere                                                                             
  131.    I will find out who you are and i will seek justice                                                                                                                                         
  132.    you can't keep doing this to people; it WILL catch up to you eventually                                                                                                                     
  133.    you were not reasonable at all                                                                                                                                                              
  134.    arca%wolf.furnet.org                                                                                                                                                             [11:29:38] 
  135.    And this is why you will be removed from the network. Threats are unacceptable. Abusive behavior is unacceptable.                       
  136.    Tom                                                                                                                                                                              [11:29:41] 
  137.    this is just gaslighting