File: <20220302-XMPP-Agris-DigitalFox>

  1.    02 Mar 2022 20:27 with digitalfox/BitlBee                                                                                                                                                   
  2.    digitalfox                                                                                                                                        [20:27:47]                                
  3.    'ello Agris!                                                                                                                                      
  4.    Pardon the unfortunate timing - at the time you messaged, I was nearing bed, and I wound up running out of steam the following days.  I appreciate your patience.                           
  5.                                                                                                                                                                                                
  6.    * digitalfox crouches down, offering a firm, fluffy hug, if desired.                                                                                                             [20:27:47] 
  7.    Agris                                                                                                                                                                            [20:28:22] 
  8.    =3                                                                                                                                                                               
  9.    * Agris steps forward and hugs the digits of your paw, nuzzling lovingly into them                                                                                               [20:29:00] 
  10.    you caught me at an interesting time. just before going to bed, and just before growing up for macro march too                                                                              
  11.    will you be celebrating?                                                                                                                                                                    
  12.    * digitalfox smiles and happily swishes his tail, flexing those digits - since he's crouching down anyways, he can bring his fingers AND toes into play!  Thick, fluffy, with    [20:35:19] 
  13.    leathery pads, scrunching and snuggling over your head, muzzle, and body too, mindful of the zappiness.                                                                          
  14.    Ah!  It's growing late for me, too, I hesitated but I figured it'd be nicer to reach out and hug you even if we were nearing resting.                                                       
  15.    And, ooh...  That sounds fun!                                                                                                                                                               
  16.    As for myself, I don't have anything planned for Macro March...  I might have some older sketches to post, though, not sure yet.                                                            
  17.    Agris                                                                                                                                                                 [20:37:02]            
  18.    well thank you for reaching out anyways                                                                                                                               
  19.    i'd like to do something together for macro march                                                                                                                                           
  20.    not sure what yet tho                                                                                                                                                                       
  21.    <3                                                                                                                                                                                          
  22.    * Agris feels in between your fuzzy fluffy foxy digits as you splay them, then getting re-squeshed with the most INTENSE hug they've ever gotten as you force them back together [20:38:22] 
  23.    <3                                                                                                                                                                               
  24.    *falls                                                                                                                                                                                      
  25.    * digitalfox softly laughs, pleasantly tickled by your tiny touches.  With his dexterous digits dwarfing you, he effortlessly embraces you, enveloping you in that fierce, but              
  26.    careful grasp, alternatively flexing his fingers, then his toes, providing a potentially pleasant contrast in the nimbleness of his hand versus the heftier strength of his      [21:02:44]
  27.    foot.  There's no doubt, you're in good paws! :3                                                                                                                                 
  28.    Ah, I see!                                                                                                                                                                                  
  29.    I will be absent for the middle of the month (going to visit Mom); I'm not sure how present I'll be.                                                                                        
  30.    But I do wish you well with your scheming!                                                                                                                                                  
  31.    08 Mar 2022 20:00 with digitalfox/BitlBee                                                                                                                                                   
  32.    Agris                                                                                                                                                                         [20:00:45]    
  33.    https://0x0.st/oPF4.mp4                                                                                                                                                       
  34.    14 Mar 2022 17:25 with digitalfox/BitlBee                                                                                                                                                   
  35.    * Agris hugs you                                                                                                                                                                 [17:25:11] 
  36.    27 Mar 2022 20:23 with digitalfox/BitlBee                                                                                                                                                   
  37.    digitalfox                                                                                                                                               [20:23:38]                         
  38.    I realize you're hurting - the stuff you're dealing with sucks, a lot.                                                                                   
  39.    Unfortunately, as I'm still sorting out my own situation, I just.. don't have consistent energy to talk in real time with you, let alone help the way a counselor might.                    
  40.    (Inversely, I've wound up pulling back from a few other social settings, too.  I don't feel it's fair to you or others to give a false hope of availability.)                               
  41.    I've saved your XMPP contact details and I will reach out to you if things improve.  I do wish the best for you, fennercti.                                                                 
  42.    Agris                                                                                                                                                             [20:26:57]                
  43.    do you have some idea of what's been going on?                                                                                                                    
  44.    i sure hope so, because it's very confusing and hurtful and full of people lying                                                                                                            
  45.    for whatever reason                                                                                                                                                                         
  46.    digitalfox                                                                                                                                                                       [20:37:02] 
  47.    I'm not sure.                                                                                                                                                                    
  48.    I was asking to withdraw just because I don't have the energy.  Nobody told me about you to prompt this.                                                                                    
  49.    Agris                                                                                                                       [20:51:30]                                                      
  50.    i have been suffering from cyberbullies following me around the internet, not just irc or xmpp, mucks too and the fediverse 
  51.    harassing me                                                                                                                                                                                
  52.    defaming me                                                                                                                                                                                 
  53.    slandering me                                                                                                                                                                               
  54.    ostracizing me from clubs, communities, and groups                                                                                                                                          
  55.    friends abandoning me                                                                                                                                                                       
  56.    aquatancees abandoning me                                                                                                                                                                   
  57.    won't tell me real reasons why                                                                                                                                                              
  58.    even they tell me anything at all                                                                                                                                                           
  59.    than just ignore me and pretend like i don't exist                                                                                                                                          
  60.    some of them have been intimidated and threatened into not talking to me                                                                                                                    
  61.    i can't sich which people told me this without putting them in danger                                                                                                                       
  62.    there was another attack on me 2 nights ago                                                                                                                                                 
  63.    i went..... into a dark place ='(                                                                                                                                                           
  64.    i hoped to ask you some questions about what you might have seen                                                                                                                            
  65.    when your better                                                                                                                                                                            
  66.    yes i'm contacting athorities about this                                                                                                                                                    
  67.    some friends                                                                                                                                                                                
  68.    i don't know what is going on                                                                                                                                                               
  69.    ugh...                                                                                                                                                                                      
  70.    i'll try to continue later                                                                                                                                                                  
  71.    or                                                                                                                                                                                          
  72.    better i'll just stop and wait for when your better                                                                                                                                         
  73.    i don't want to burden you more                                                                                                                                                             
  74.    digitalfox                                                                                                                                                                     [21:53:58]   
  75.    Sheesh, all of that sucks.                                                                                                                                                     
  76.    And your point of others "pretending [you] don't exist" is actually part of my motivation - I don't think it's fair to hang around your XMPP roster, only to not really be able to talk for 
  77.    months on end.  I'd rather tell you instead of dancing around it.                                                                                                                           
  78.    On that, my reasoning hasn't really changed from over a year ago - it's continuing to take more energy than I expected to make this transition in my life (job/moving out/etc), and while   
  79.    I've made some progress, I've realized I still need to refocus more of my energy.                                                                                                           
  80.    * digitalfox reaches down and squeezes his arms around in a firm farewell hug.                                                                                                   [21:53:58] 
  81.    I appreciate your understanding and patience, and recognizing that we do need to focus on our individual situations.  I wish you the best with getting to the bottom of what's going on,    
  82.    and I don't have any grudges against you.                                                                                                                                                   
  83.    And as noted, I will keep your contact details and reach out when I'm ready.  Please don't worry about me, or try to check in.  I promise I'll take care of myself.                         
  84.    Agris                                                                                      [22:17:36]                                                                                       
  85.    > I don't think it's fair to hang around your XMPP roster, only to not really be able to talk for months on end.  I'd rather tell you instead of dancing around it.
  86.    nonononononno, i want you here. Sometimes I feel like your part of it, but your occaisonal checkins and re-assurances remind the logical part of my brain that's not what's happening. And
  87.    I like you.                                                                                
  88.    PLEASE DON'T FAREWELL                                                                                                                                                                       
  89.    PLEASE GOD NO                                                                                                                                                                               
  90.    that's pointless                                                                                                                                                                            
  91.    Agris                                                                                                                                                                       [22:20:26]      
  92.    that would hurt me digital                                                                                                                                                  
  93.    there's literally no cost to being an entry in my roster                                                                                                                                    
  94.    don't do this to me                                                                                                                                                                         
  95.    * Agris cries irl                                                                                                                                                                [22:21:01] 
  96.    don't                                                                                                                                                                                       
  97.    please                                                                                                                                                                                      
  98.    no                                                                                                                                                                                          
  99.    > I appreciate your understanding and patience, and recognizing that we do need to focus on our individual situations.                                                                      
  100.    that's fine and  true but unrostering is unneccecary and irrelevant to that                                                                                                                 
  101.    i spent all this time, being patient with you... and you won't with me                                                                                                                      
  102.    > Please don't worry about me, or try to check in.  I promise I'll take care of myself.                                                                                                     
  103.    i would worry about you if you did that                                                                                                                                                     
  104.    and also                                                                                                                                                                                    
  105.    it would cause more great emotional damage to me                                                                                                                                            
  106.    don't                                                                                                                                                                                       
  107.    please                                                                                                                                                                                      
  108.    Agris                                                                                                                                                                 [22:28:25]            
  109.    let me decide what's fair to me and not                                                                                                                               
  110.    Agris                                                                                                                                                                        [22:50:45]     
  111.    don't do this digitalfox                                                                                                                                                     
  112.    digitalfox                                                                                                                                               [23:15:34]                         
  113.    You mentioned being patient with me.. but.. what are you waiting for?                                                                                    
  114.    I didn't foresee my life getting thrown upside-down by my parents' divorce while I'm living at home.  I've never experienced something like this before.  If I had known all the crap I'd   
  115.    go through over the upcoming years, I'd have told you much earlier that you should not wait for me.                                                                                         
  116.    I just don't have the social capacity.  I don't know when that'll change.  And I'm sorry it hurts to hear this.                                                                             
  117.    I've had many folks just drop off talking to me over the years.  It sucks, I still hate it, but I can't make them want to spend time with me.  All I could do was look at myself, see if    
  118.    there's anything amiss (among other things, I've learned to get better at respecting others' boundaries, including when folks asked me for silence), and.. try to move on.                  
  119.    I only wish they would have taken the effort to acknowledge how things had deteriorated between me and them instead of silently disappearing into the wind...                               
  120.    Knowing how I've felt then, I had hoped that offering you the courtesy of acknowledging I'm not able to keep up would've made for a less awful experience compared to silently              
  121.    disappearing.                                                                                                                                                                               
  122.    Agris                                                                                       [23:29:52]                                                                                      
  123.    I'm not sure why your mentioning how you've had folks just drop off talking to you over the years. I'm not doing that to you, but that's what you seem to be doing to me? If your trying to
  124.    tell me to do something I need you to not be ambiguous about it as I'm not good with picking up on those sort of things, social sidechannels.
  125.                                                                                                
  126.    I don't want to abandoning you. That seems to me like what your saying you want to do to me.
  127.                                                                                                
  128.    I Understand you don't have any social capacity right now. And I'm trying to respect that boundery of yours, I think i'm doing a pretty good job of it too, not intending to be pushy if
  129.    that's what your implying.                                                                  
  130.                                                                                                
  131.    I'm waiting for when you feel better and have enough social energy to socialize again, because I'm not going to abandon my friends. That's just not the kind of person I am. I am extremely
  132.    loyal to my friends and you are one of them.                                                
  133.                                                                                                
  134.    >I only wish they would have taken the effort to acknowledge how things had deteriorated between me and them instead of silently disappearing into the wind...
  135.                                                                                                
  136.    If there is something you want me to acknoladge please be explicity about it. But it seems like dissapearing into the wind silently is what YOU want to do to me by removing yourself from
  137.    my roster. I'm trying not to be pushy. I'm trying to give you your space, I've only sent you a couple of posts every couple of weeks and even then awaited patiently for your delayed email
  138.    like query-response being respectful of that.                                               
  139.    I can and will continue to wait for you to be able to have social capacity                                                                                                                  
  140.    please don't dissapear though                                                                                                                                                               
  141.    no matter how you go about doing that, it will hurt me                                                                                                                                      
  142.    some more than others                                                                                                                                                                       
  143.    i don't see it as neccecary                                                                                                                                                                 
  144.    if you think i'm not giving you enough space, just tell me explicity that's what's going on and what I can do to provide you with what you want                                             
  145.    no social sidechannels                                                                                                                                                                      
  146.    or subtleties                                                                                                                                                                               
  147.    double-meanings                                                                                                                                                                             
  148.    Agris                                                                                                     [23:42:24]                                                                        
  149.    > I only wish they would have taken the effort to acknowledge how things had deteriorated between me and them instead of silently disappearing into the wind...
  150.    if your talking about other people, then yes. It is hard and it does cause deteriation going out this long, but you've never done anything to hurt me
  151.    yet                                                                                                                                                                                         
  152.    at least not explicitly and on purpose                                                                                                                                                      
  153.    28 Mar 2022 00:18 with digitalfox/BitlBee                                                                                                                                                   
  154.    digitalfox                                                                                                                                     [00:18:09]                                   
  155.    To avoid any confusion or side-channel ambiguity (I know it can be difficult to navigate):                                                     
  156.    I am asking for silence, for you to not reach out to me.                                                                                                                                    
  157.    I realize this is difficult.  But this is the boundary I've set, and if you respect this, you won't keep trying to change my mind.                                                          
  158.    28 Mar 2022 00:19 with digitalfox                                                                                                                                                           
  159.    Agris                                                                                                                                                        [00:19:52]                     
  160.    gosh that was terse and didn't answer any of my questions                                                                                                    
  161.    i am hurt