13 Nov 2021 00:49 with Whiskers2.0/blabber.im[3.0.8].S2ja
* Agris waves [00:49:06]
Whiskers2.0 [09:30:42]
Howdy
Agris [10:14:53]
just wishing to hang out with you more
Whiskers2.0 [12:32:17]
Well, on that subject, I have been thinking about how I rarely come on anymore, and I have come to the decision that I would prefer to close my xmpp account rather than continue to have a
slim presence here. I know that my departure might be a bit unpleasant for you and Serum, but I personally feel like it is time to go. If you have questions about this decision, I would
be happy to answer
Agris [14:44:29]
yes
i have questions
closing your account is drastic
even if you rarely use it anymore
why do you feel you want to do this?
you'd also be losing a form of communication
people don't normally close email accounts
and you do realize you'd lose contact with me completely if you did that right?
Whiskers2.0 [14:59:00]
I do realize that we would lose contact. To be clear, I am going to close my account because I no longer wish to maintain a connection to the people I have met on Cybersnoot during my
stay.
Agris [14:59:51]
including me?
jeeze whiskers; what did I do (or didn't do) to you? What is making you do this?
Agris [15:08:36]
whiskers can we talk about this, on the computer with a full keyboard
Whiskers2.0 [15:08:41]
>including me?
Indeed, and I know that this bears some similarity to the Azure situation, which was unpleasant as well.
> jeeze whiskers; what did I do (or didn't do) to you? What is making you do this?
Nothing is making me do this, I simply wish to close the loose threads that joining this server has left me with. I did not create an XMPP account for the purpose of making permanent
friends, only to find a group that was interested in what I was for a time. I have only been responding to your messages for some time, and in most cases you seem sad or regretful that I
do not interact the way I used to. So I have made the determination to close off this account, since I have wanted to for a long while now.
Agris [15:09:33]
can we talk ab out this?
Whiskers2.0 [15:09:44]
We are talking about it
I am going to close the account in the end, but I want to answer your questions since I know how much it hurt you when Azure hedged and avoided your questions.
Agris [15:11:22]
you know you can leave cybersnoot and keep your account right?
Whiskers2.0 [15:11:38]
I am fully aware.
Agris [15:11:39]
if so, why the insistence on closing the account
it's not like it's a huge thing to maintain here
Whiskers2.0 [15:14:31]
I do not wish to maintain my connection with the others on Cybersnoot or with you anymore; in the case of my relationship with you, I cannot reciprocate the friendship that you continue
to have for me, so instead of keeping the account up and maintaining that connection I would rather not have the account.
Agris [15:16:21]
what are you interested in now?
Whiskers2.0 [15:18:32]
That is not related to my decision to leave; I am fine with answering questions regarding why I am leaving, so that you can have some closure, but apart from that I am not interested in
discussing other matters.
Agris [15:19:08]
your not willing to
Whiskers2.0 [15:19:18]
Correct
Agris [15:19:22]
damn whiskers
I would really like to know
Whiskers2.0 [15:21:27]
Do you have no more questions regarding my leaving?
Agris [15:21:31]
i mean, if i'm never going to see you again, I don't see what the foul is
I do have more
what do you think of me in general, as in, what was your perspective of me and
would you be willing to leave the account intact but not log into it, just in case years later you decide to check back on previous chapters of your life?
i have, for example found an old email contact list from years ago when i was much younger
and asked my old friends how they were doing
what jobs they had now etc
oh, and thirdly, is there a question your expecting me to ask that I have not already or that you want me to ask
keeping your account here really isn't a thing at all to have me do, as it's just a line entry in a text file on the server
Whiskers2.0 [15:28:54]
> what do you think of me in general, as in, what was your perspective of me and
My perspective of you is that you are hardworking, strong-willed, very intelligent, and willing to accept people with different views from your own. While you do sometimes have trouble
with people misinterpreting you in real life, you have strong convictions and are willing to act against the norm to defend what you believe.
> would you be willing to leave the account intact but not log into it, just in case years later you decide to check back on previous chapters of your life?
No, I would like a clean cut so I will be closing the account.
> oh, and thirdly, is there a question your expecting me to ask that I have not already or that you want me to ask
No, I would just like to make sure you don't run through false scenarios in your head when you could get straightforward answers here and now
Agris [15:30:36]
have you slept on this decision?
would you be willing to exchange email addresses?
Agris [15:32:39]
you told me you are not furry anymore. What made you furry in the first place? oh, and how did you find this place?
Whiskers2.0 [15:34:51]
I made the decision to leave months ago, but I gave it some time to make sure I wanted to. It turns out that I do want to leave.
Regarding email, no, I would like to cut the connection entirely so I am not willing to exchange an e-mail adress
> you told me you are not furry anymore. What made you furry in the first place? oh, and how did you find this place?
I became a furry in high school since my friend got me interested.
I answered your second question on October 5
Agris [15:35:04]
will you allow me to share this with others excluding personal or senstive information. I'm sure
huh, i don't seem to have that in my logs oct 5
Whiskers2.0 [15:37:04]
You may certainly share the fact that I left and the reason, although I would appreciate leaving out things that are super personal.
I will fetch my log for you
Agris [15:37:08]
we just talked about my new paws i commissioned then
unless it's on a different computer
Whiskers2.0 [15:38:19]
> The day i found Cybersnoot, I had just created my xmpp account and was looking for a few rooms to join. I joined several, including a Linux group, a German group, a French group, an
group about XMPP, etc. I also searched 'furry' on the channel list, and Cybersnoot is the one I found
> My impression came from the description of the channel as a 'vaporwave' or 'cyberpunk' furry channel. I cannot remember the exact description I saw on the channel, but it stood out to
me.
> Back then your profile picture was a green fox with big round glasses on it holding a gun. And it seemed that you guys chatted a lot on the channel, so my first impression was that it
was a busy, popular place for computer-loving furries
Agris [15:39:08]
did you ever tell me how you found out about xmpp?
also, i'm sorry i never got around to drawing the picture of the fox cooking for you. did you still want that? and why a fox cooking on a stove
Whiskers2.0 [15:39:43]
> I knew about XMPP since about the time I started using Linux about a decade ago, when I used Pidgin as a chat client for talking with high school friends on Google Talk. Pidgin supports
XMPP so I saw the name XMPP a lot ever since that time, but I had neever created an account on XMPP until recently
> I originally got the XMPP account since I wanted to see what kinds of communities there were for open source/FOSS enthusiasts, and I had heard they mainly used IRC and XMPP for chatting
> I never really understood IRC so I ended up making this account
Agris [15:40:29]
What did you end up doing with the book we were reading together?
Whiskers2.0 [15:41:26]
> also, i'm sorry i never got around to drawing the picture of the fox cooking for you. did you still want that? and why a fox cooking on a stove
That's alright, and I do not want the picture anymore. I picked a fox cooking since I figured you would like drawing foxes and cooking was just an interesting thing for a fox to do.
> What did you end up doing with the book we were reading together?
I still have it and I will probably read it eventually.
Agris [15:42:18]
could you transfer ownership of the mossy cave den to me in the muc
also, did you ever talk to azure about this? and did they have something to do with your decision now?
Whiskers2.0 [15:46:02]
> could you transfer ownership of the mossy cave den to me in the muc
No, it is there if you want to explore it but I do not have plans of logging back on there
> also, did you ever talk to azure about this? and did they have something to do with your decision now?
No I have not talked with Azure since he stopped chatting with anyone on Cybersnoot.
Agris [15:47:13]
i hope you realize how weird this is
Whiskers2.0 [15:49:31]
It's not something that happens every day, for sure, and I do realize that it seems weird, but all this is a normal part of the human experience.
Agris [15:49:57]
I disagree
but i'm not going to push it
Whiskers2.0 [15:50:34]
I appreciate it.
Thanks for letting Serum know too.
Agris [15:50:41]
i want to let you know i'm not sad and depressed over you not recipricating
well
ok
maybe a little
but the reason wasn't that when i pinged you
i wish feeling alright then
*was
I just wanted to let you know I would like it if you interacted more
Whiskers2.0 [15:52:26]
I understand, and it's good to let people know how you feel. Alrighty, if I have made my departure clear and apparent enough, I will be logging off now
Agris [15:52:40]
hold om
hold on
I need to let you know some things
Whiskers2.0 [15:52:51]
Alright
Agris [15:52:56]
I will honor your request but because of the weird circumstances I need to tell you some things
my email address is agris@nuegia.net
commit it to memory
now
Whiskers2.0 [15:53:35]
Not to worry, I have long known your e-mail address from when I saw it on your website
Agris [15:54:14]
I will not delete your email address immediately, but it will be deleted at the end of this month December 1st
I do think it's a bit unfair to let me know this now, as i'm sure there are things I still have to ask and let you know
but just can't think of on a whim
if I do not recieve any email or message asking me to hold on on deletion by Dec 1st, your account will be fully removed and all associated data
Whiskers2.0 [15:55:51]
Ok, thanks for letting me know
Agris [15:56:12]
my PGP encryption key is also on my website
nuegia.net
www.nuegia.net
I have a request
Could you draw me a final time? perhaps us parting ways
Whiskers2.0 [15:59:21]
I appreciate the request, but I would rather not make too much of an event of my leaving, so I decline.
* Agris sigh [15:59:31]
ok
Goodbye, Whiskers2.0
=(
Whiskers2.0 [16:00:22]
It was nice meeting you Agris, I wish you luck and a happy life!