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agris furnet, posted by Tony311
[01:17:29] <agris> What would it take for me to become a server operator here?
[01:17:52] <agris> let me clarify, host a IRC daemon in the furnet cluster
[01:18:55] <agris> the only one that has TLS setup properly is Alicorn, and that's all the way in Australia
[01:20:34] <agris> that's like, the complete opposite part of the earth where I am
[01:21:52] <IceKarma> agris, basically asking that question has doomed you to never become one.
[01:22:08] <IceKarma> agris, much like in most IRC channels, asking for ops pins you to the bottom of the list of people who will ever get ops.
[01:22:37] <IceKarma> agris, and... Lymril, this channel's owner, is a network operator, so if you think nobody's watching, you're wrong
[01:22:58] <Ciel> :v
[01:23:30] <agris> IceKarma, you misunderstand. I'm not asking for the 'operator' permission level. I'm offering to become a server operator. As an someone who operators a server
[01:23:48] <IceKarma> agris, right, and you've clearly demonstrated your abject lack of clue about same. so it won't happen.
[01:24:18] <IceKarma> agris, have you ever run an IRC server before? even just a private one?
[01:24:24] <agris> yes
[01:24:44] <IceKarma> agris, actually, strike that 'even just a private one?' bit
[01:25:04] <agris> what do you mean?
[01:25:21] <TonyTheCoon> he's just asking what it would take to add a server to the network, i don't see anything wrong with that
[01:25:24] <agris> like a commercial IRC server?
[01:25:38] <IceKarma> agris, no. an IRC server open to the public.
[01:25:44] <agris> yes then
[01:25:47] <IceKarma> agris, and the administration nightmares that entails, both Unix and IRC.
[01:25:53] <IceKarma> agris, oh? part of what network?
[01:26:10] <IceKarma> Tony, what would it take? an admin with a large number of orders of magnitude more clue than agris has
[01:26:13] <agris> It was for friends and friends of
[01:26:26] <Dmitr> What is this, an interrogation
[01:26:29] <IceKarma> agris, yeah, that's not "public"
[01:26:31] <agris> and I do UNIX administration and development every day.
[01:26:41] <IceKarma> agris, you seem awfully clueless, for that
[01:26:42] <TonyTheCoon> way to be an asshole about it :P
[01:26:48] <IceKarma> Tony, yeah, I know
[01:27:10] <agris> It's public if anyone is free to join and make their own channels from just word of mouth
[01:27:25] <IceKarma> agris, it's not public if the only people who find out about it find out from word of mouth
[01:27:40] <agris> How did you find FurNet?
[01:28:05] <IceKarma> agris, you're fighting an uphill battle, just give up now, save yourself the pain.
[01:28:14] <TonyTheCoon> i see nothing wrong with agris's argument
[01:28:27] <IceKarma> Tony, when people have unreasonable dreams, it's not unreasonable to do your best to crush them
[01:28:34] <norenxaq> ik: you aren't the one to decide
[01:28:34] <TonyTheCoon> wow fuck you
[01:28:47] <IceKarma> Tony, maybe in ten, twenty years agris will be in a position to run an IRC server and connect it to a public network
[01:28:55] <IceKarma> Tony, today? haha, they don't hire newbies
[01:28:57] <IceKarma> "hire"
[01:29:12] <IceKarma> nor, no, I'm not, and I'm aware of that.
[01:29:24] <IceKarma> nor, I'm trying to prepare agris from being laughed out of whatever channel he'd propose it in.
[01:29:30] <K9_Thunder> everybody take a step back and take a deep breath.
[01:29:32] <agris> IceKarma, Really, it's not a bother. I have plenty of spare complicity and a direct line into NWAX. I administrate UNIX systems every day and if I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't be working where I am
[01:29:41] <norenxaq> ik: good. then end conversation and refer to lym
[01:29:55] <IceKarma> agris, talk to Lym more about it. I'm out.
[01:30:19] <IceKarma> Tony, and yes, I already know I'm an elitist asshole, thank you. that comes with liking competence, apparently.
[01:30:23] <agris> IceKarma, Sure, but was it something I said that upset you or something?
[01:30:39] <TonyTheCoon> it is possible to be competent without being an asshole
[01:30:47] <IceKarma> agris, nope, not really. just your abject lack of clue.
[01:30:54] <agris> of what?
[01:31:17] <IceKarma> agris, clue. every time you open your mouth in a conversation about Unix with me you demonstrate your abject lack of knowledge.
[01:31:19] <norenxaq> ok... both of you drop it